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Cannon Unit

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:05 pm
by Viktor
I've been trying to extract a cannon from both Blue and Gray, and the original Civil War mod. I seem to be getting all the tags in- collections, projectiles, objects etc., the unit appears in loathing fine, but any map I run with it crashes. Does anyone know what this problem is, how i could fix it, or where I could just download a working version of one of those cannons. I actually prefer the original one for the purposes of my project.
any ideas?

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:22 pm
by gugusm
Maybe you have got some tags, which have the same 4-letter code. For example "dwarf satchel charge" tag has "dwsc" code (first letters). Having two tags, which have the same code causes crashing. I had it problem once and it could be it.

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:37 pm
by Horus
Go back into Loathing let it crash, then look at your Myth log.

It will give you a four letter header, and a tag type. Go into the folder you got the cannon tags from, go into the clarified tag type folder, then attempt to find the tag with a name that primarily uses the header Characters.

For example

cannon ball crazy shot

that tag would be named cbcs.

The difficultly is in finding the tags which aren't four part names, but the header should still be similar to the tag name.

Once you find the mentioned Tags try loathing again. If it crashes again look again in your Myth Log. When this happens it means the new tag/s you got first time is also linked to something you missed.

Continue this cycle until Loathing works. Now if Myth refuses to let you play the map check the Myth Log again (Loathing doesn't need all the tags to let you place a unit on a map, but Myth needs them all to let you play it).

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:26 pm
by Viktor
But here's the thing, though- It's not loathing that crashes, its myth. Like I said, the unit does appear in loathing as it should, with no problems. It doesn't seem like myth tracks it in the myth.log file, though.

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:25 pm
by Killswitch
Horus has the right idea going there: let Myth crash then check the Myth.log (if it crashes in Loathing or Myth, the problem should be recorded in the log). There could be several reasons why it is crashing and your best tool to figure it out is the myth log.

If you look in the log and can't figure out what's wrong, post the log here and why can help.

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:43 pm
by Horus
I've sorted the tags out for you. You can get the B&G Cannon from HERE!

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:21 pm
by Viktor
Thank you. Now i feel like an idiot... To improve my self esteem, I'm going to try and figure it out myself, before downloading the link. I've done this kind of thing many times before, I don't know why it's having problems...
Thanks for all the help

Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:35 pm
by TarousZars
For future reference, the easiest way to extract a unit from a plugin is with Chaos.
Then you don't have to worry about missing a tag.

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:00 pm
by Viktor
Oh. So thats what Chaos is for. Excellent.

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:06 pm
by Lugas
Chaos is an incredibly useful tool.

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:29 pm
by ozone
yes it is :D

Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:21 pm
by Horus
Lugas wrote:Chaos is an incredibly useful tool.
It's what I used to extract the cannon :wink:

my cwr and cwe locals are on udogs...

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:23 am
by Point
my cwr and cwe locals are on udogs... with all the new b&g cannons and such...

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:05 pm
by Zaknafein
TarousZars wrote:For future reference, the easiest way to extract a unit from a plugin is with Chaos.
Then you don't have to worry about missing a tag.
Maybe I would do that if it worked with mac os 10.1 :x

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:42 pm
by Graydon
why the hell are you on 10.1 noob?