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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:37 pm
by Enculator
Bill Gates would call that a feature, but I'm calling it a bug.
Something very strange happened to me today, on a kg game.
A duff died, leaving an ignited bottle. The bottle didnt explode, as it sometimes happens.
Then a ghol grabed the bottle, sent it to my arcs, and it exploded on them.
I got the film if u wana know more about it...
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:46 pm
by Renwood
How is this a bug? you said the bottle was still lit. the gol picked up a lit bottle and thus could throw one later at any time.
gotta love gols!
-Renwood
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:46 pm
by A-Red
I wouldn't call that a bug either. And actually, I'd rather it wasn't fixed, because you can script to give Ghols "dwarf bottle lit" just as you can script to give them pus packets or spare cleavers or anything else, making them just that much more deadly. A number of mapmakers have done it in the past--those plugins would be bugged by the "fix" and the option would no longer exist for future scripters.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:54 pm
by Archer
I'd consider it a bug because the fuse doesn't keep going when the Ghol picks it up (either going out or exploding after a period), but the backwards-compatibility argument holds.
~J
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:23 am
by Renwood
Gols have a Time dilation sack that they place items in. In such a place time slows down or ceases to exist. Thus the bottle wont splode while inside it.
Anyways...gols have ALLWAYS been able (if lucky enough) to pick up a lit slow burner bottle from a dorf , then throw it back at him.
O yea and in case you didnt notice... dorf bottles dont have timed fuses. ~8^)
-Ren
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:07 am
by Baron LeDant
Pretty sure he's referring to those bottles that stay lit but never explode.
Personally I'd prefer it to stay in myth, much like the occasional satchel explosion when dorfs drop them at the start of games.
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:16 pm
by TheHelmet
Baron LeDant wrote:Personally I'd prefer it to stay in myth, much like the occasional satchel explosion when dorfs drop them at the start of games.
That's actually never happened to me.. though I haven't been playing that frequently recently either.
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:03 pm
by Baron LeDant
Never happened to me either, but I saw it happen to Ducky when we were laying a huge satchel trap in coop
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:58 pm
by Orlando the Axe
happens like once in every 500,000 satchels dropped.
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:38 pm
by Renwood
in my 10 years of mything i have seen this happen only 1 time.
i was dropping satchles and one was on fire and sploded a second later.
i was testing a Hexo plug at the time but the creator swore he didnt mess with the satchles at all.
so 1/500,000 sounds about right
-Renwood
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:26 pm
by GodzFire
iron wrote:zach: Myth 2 currently renders in 16 bit for software and 32 bit for most (perhaps all, not sure) hardware renderers. The source graphics (sprites, landscape textures etc) are all 8 bit, but there's nothing we can do about that. By the time you see them on screen using a hardware renderer they've been converted to 32 bit & smoothed.
Just for clarification, why is there nothing we can do about the 8bit sprites?
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:28 pm
by GodzFire
ChrisP wrote:In fact, I suspect Iron felt the same way about needing the Multipack ready for the 1.4 deadline, which is probably why he never told me of his plans for an automated porting tool - which he never released, by the way. That's at least one reason you don't see more TFL ports. Maybe it's very buggy and requires fiddling with rabbit-ear antennas just so to make it work. Iron never was one for releasing anything he considered less than complete.
iron wrote:Hehe, good to see you back on the forum CP
Btw I didn't really have a plan to write that program at all, not until I started The Fallen Levels (after 1.4 and B&G were finished) and realised the task would be impossible without it. Then it all came together rather more quickly than I expected...
Yes, it needs lots of rabbit ears fiddling, not only to run the program but to setup the mesh _exactly_ the right way before you can run the program. I could tell it was going to be a massive support hassle so I never released it.
I did give the proggy to a couple of guys (Quartermann was one I think) who wanted to port some TFL plugins, but I don't think anything ever came of it. I also started on a second TFL multipack a while ago but put it aside until 1.7's done (and assuming I have the motivation).
This program ChrisP and Iron speak of, does anyone have anymore information on it?
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:40 am
by Killswitch
Wow...talk about raising an old topic from the dead. GodzFire is like The Watcher for forum posts.
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:25 am
by GodzFire
Killswitch wrote:Wow...talk about raising an old topic from the dead. GodzFire is like The Watcher for forum posts.
lol Kills, good show
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:07 am
by The Elfoid
vinylrake wrote:Deqlyn wrote:Ivote that the Party Mappack, and/or the Winter Mappack be added to 1.7. They have the same maps with new normal SB units which makes it more fun.
Ask Fool, HMP, Paris, Balor, Zooked Turd, EvilZen, Plague Bearer, Zeph, and a whole buncha other people.
my 2 cents. <3
Not to take anything away from the fun of the Party Mappack, but if one is _tired_ of the same Bungie maps being played all the time, I would vote for some completely DIFFERENT maps before I would vote for the same maps with new units - no matter how fun, innovative and/or well balanced the new unit versions of the Bungie maps are, NEW(er) completely different MAPS get my vote.
Very much agreed.
However I do think a "map standard" with all the regular tournament maps should be given to all players with a patch. That'd be great, given MOST of us have them but often don't play them so everyone can be in agame.