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Use Extended

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:42 pm
by Floyd
i was looking for the 1.4 fear future of 'is skittish flag, and found it on the new fear manual.

Use Extended (NEW) - This was formely the unused Is Skittish flag. Now it is used to define whether any of the following flags are used for this monster. These flags use the Grass, Desert and Sloped Terrain Costs to store their values, so unless those terrain types are checked as passable (set speed to zero if you don't want the unit to walk on them) then you won't be able to use these flags...

however, it fails to tell you what each of these flags' NUMBERS are or which terrain they are used for. are they used differently now??

Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:33 pm
by Graydon
Aye, track those digits down in the 1.4 manual then.

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 2:41 pm
by Horus

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:21 pm
by Baak
My understanding is that checking one or more of the items under "Use Extended" will set the corresponding numbers in those terrain entries.

In other words, you don't have to mess with the numbers at all - just check the settings you want under "Use Extended". Then if you decided to look under Terrain you will see the numbers in those unused terrain entries, but you don't have to adjust them manually.

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:26 pm
by iron
Baak is correct. When we originally introduced the extended values, we didn't have the knowledge/ability/time/gumption to extend Fear's user interface, so as a quick hack we put the unused Terrain Costs field to use.

Now of course you have all those gorgeous Extended checkboxes to use, so the terrain entries are of academic value only.

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:22 am
by Floyd
thats what it sounded like when i was reading the manual, but i cant even find the 'use extended' checkbox! im running mac osx, and newest loathing

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:23 am
by iron
Um ... tried running the newest Fear?

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:55 am
by Khadrelt
The Mac Fear doesn't have the Use Extended checkbox. You still have to check 'Is Skittish' and put the numbers in the Terrain Cost manually.

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:31 pm
by Floyd
lol my bad iron, i meant fear.

and im on mac, so that sucks about the check box

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:33 pm
by Baak
Khadrelt wrote:The Mac Fear doesn't have the Use Extended checkbox. You still have to check 'Is Skittish' and put the numbers in the Terrain Cost manually.
:: gesture of Samurai committing Seppuku ::


Aieeeeee!

So we have PC's for Fear and Mac's for Amber... :roll:

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:22 pm
by iron
Floyd wrote:lol my bad iron, i meant fear.

and im on mac, so that sucks about the check box
Ouch ok. I've been out of the myth development loop for quite some time, but I was under the impression that the newest mac fear had everything that the pc version had, and even more in some cases. Sorry that's not the case :\

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:14 pm
by Floyd
yeah iron, that must mean you better get back in the loop!!

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:11 pm
by Horus
Mac Fear has everything that PC Fear has, it's just different.

The only real difference is that Mac'ers have to put the terrain cost numbers in to get the effects that the PC'ers get by checking a checkbox.

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:43 pm
by iron
Floyd wrote:yeah iron, that must mean you better get back in the loop!!
hehe ... I no longer even have a mac :p

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:15 pm
by Myrd
iron wrote:
Floyd wrote:yeah iron, that must mean you better get back in the loop!!
hehe ... I no longer even have a mac :p
Boo...