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Mac OS Classic to X

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:36 am
by rothgar
Hi all,

I have original disks for "Myth, the Fallen Lords" and "Myth II, Soulblighter" for Macintosh. Unfortunately they are both pre-Mac OS X and I'm running a G5 Quad without Classic. Any tips on upgrading without spending any $$$?

Thanks in advance for any help.

-Eric

Re: Mac OS Classic to X

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 2:34 pm
by Death's Avatar
rothgar wrote:Hi all,

I have original disks for "Myth, the Fallen Lords" and "Myth II, Soulblighter" for Macintosh. Unfortunately they are both pre-Mac OS X and I'm running a G5 Quad without Classic. Any tips on upgrading without spending any $$$?

Thanks in advance for any help.

-Eric
For myth 2, the 1.5.1 installer on the tain has an install from CD app that is OS X.

http://tain.totalcodex.net/items/show/myth-ii-1-5-1-mac

Re: Mac OS Classic to X

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:01 pm
by striderdm1
Hi, sorry if i'm being thick here but too much xmas beer and food has killed off my remaining brain cells! I've downloaded the link you kindly supplied and i've tried it on this G5 Power Mac (running leopard) and an Intel MacBook (Tiger).
Neither works, when trying to mount the DMG I get a codec error :-(

I've done the same as many before. Realized i've missed the Myth games only to find I need classic running to install! Doh!

I've got the Total Codex cds fwiw..

Could some kind soul please just zip up the installer application? I'd very much appreciate it :-)

Thanks. Merry Christmas

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:21 pm
by Myrd
That DMG mounts fine on my systems (Mac Pro; OS X 10.4.11 and MacBook Pro; OS X 10.5.1).

What's the error that you are getting, exactly?

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:40 pm
by striderdm1
"codec overrun" :(

thx

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:23 pm
by Myrd
Are you downloading the file directly, or using some kind of utility like "Speed Download"?

A google search reveals that that error is given when the file checksum doesn't validate against the file contents... ie the file has been tampered with. Since it's working fine for me, it would seem the file itself is fine. Something might be affecting the file in the way you're downloading it...

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:23 pm
by striderdm1
I don't use anything at all other than good 'ol Safari. I've also tried Firefox and got the same result.. I'm totally confused by this, i've downloaded it many times now with the same result.
Thanks for your reply :)
Strider

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:29 am
by striderdm1
I've now got this to work and my Myth2 is installed and I'm running the latest release v1.6.

I still couldn't unzip any file from the links from these forums, either downloading with safari or firefox. I even tried the command line and still got error messages. I also tried Stuffit Expander as u know and this failed..

I thought I was going mad, i was thinking it could be a bug or some problem because I'm running Leopard. I was even thinking a virus on my computer! :o But even our MacBook is running Tiger and this produces exactly the same errors.

So perhaps I'm doing something wrong lol OR i am MAD!

Anyhow, I asked a friend of mine in canada. Waited for the time difference to pass and now he's unzipped from the links I supplied him. He copied over the packages to my iDisk public folder and an unzipped v1.6 folder and everything works a treat.

I still am lost as to why I couldn't handle your zip files. I'll have to google some more and see if anyone else has ever had similar issues. Very odd indeed, esp as I work daily with the Finder's zip!

Thanks Myrd.

Strider

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:32 pm
by striderdm1
just for info, but I tried to download "The 9 vs the Fallen Lords II" (http://projectmagma.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3659) and this doesn't unpack within the Finder.

Copied the file over to Virtual PC running XP and WinZip reports CRC errors. I'd love to know if anyone else is getting Myth/Zip errors. I don't have any troubles from anywhere else on the net :cry:

Still curious.. :?

Thx

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:16 pm
by vinylrake
striderdm1 wrote:Copied the file over to Virtual PC running XP and WinZip reports CRC errors. I'd love to know if anyone else is getting Myth/Zip errors. I don't have any troubles from anywhere else on the net :cry:

Still curious.. :?

Thx
well you've definitely got something wonky going on in your system. if you get decompression errors in both the windows and Mac OS's and you are trying to decompress the same file (e.g. you downloaded the file ONCE and are trying different methods to decompress the same file (or same set of files)) I would guess there is something flaky in your internet connection that is corrupting the file(s) when you download them.. If that is the case, then no matter WHAT decompression app or OS you use you won't be able to decompress the file. I used to get that fairly frequently when trying to dl things via modem. But if it's getting corrupted on download you should experience the same difficulty decompressing downloaded files from ANY site, not just the two Myth sites you mention.

Question: Can you decompress dmg files that you download from sites other than playmyth and the tain? (the sites/files don't have to be myth related)

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:51 pm
by striderdm1
Anything at all that I can download from ANY other site on the www works just dandy. But anything from here in the Myth world gives errors, zips and dmg's. I had to get a friend to send me the updaters for Myth 2 via my iDisk!

Today, I've tried downloading using the girl friends MacBook. Same result. (that's intel and mine's ppc). I'm pretty darn sure my Mac is fine.

Hmm I've just tried two downloads from the link you kindly supplied (http://www.mariusnet.com) and they worked... :? Just tried one from the tain and this worked too! ..sigh...I've been using macs for years and i know i'm doing nothing wrong. Heck i use the finder's zip every day for my own gaming web site. lol I'm going mad indeed!

Pulling out hair now!! :(

I'm wondering if it is perhaps the net connection? I'm on 10mb cable connection here, so it cannot be speed. Hmm though i do remember changing the MTU settings b4 xmas..?

Thanks for your reply, i'll check out the settings on my router tomorrow morning. Cheers :-)

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:56 pm
by mrflibble
I too would like to report this problem when downloading the 1.5.1 version from the tain. However, I have done a little more analysis.

The files are coming down and a little different each time. The bytes they different on are not consistent (i.e. it isn't translating line feeds or anything) and are not contiguous. Been one pair of download I had 76 bytes different and a different pair 93 bytes difference. When comparing all three they were never different in same spot inferring that it isn't systematic error.

I've done multiple downloads and I have no idea why this is happening. I've been downloading things on my mac for a long time down and checking various things with md5 hashes before installing and I've never seen anything like this happen repeatedly.

Have you guys checked your server for any connection errors?

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:00 pm
by mrflibble
I've shelled into a remote server ( a mac) and I was able to get two consistent downloads. The md5 hash is reported as:

9b25230a50bd9ac2cf1ae4650a72725c

Can someone confirm this?

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:53 pm
by StoneCold
I downloaded the file, it mounts and works fine. Checked the hash via terminal.

Same MD5 hash:

9b25230a50bd9ac2cf1ae4650a72725c

Seems like theres something wrong with the decompression process on your machine. Since we get the same hash, its probably not your connection thats causing the problem.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:25 pm
by mrflibble
That last hash was the one I was getting with an external machine, I was just hoping it was a good one. ;)

My machine the hash varied with every download and it wasn't the 9b... one. I still have no idea what was wrong. I used Safari, wget and curl, none of which indicated any errors, yet gave always gave different results. Weird.