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Mirror of Creation

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:16 am
by Baak
Once upon a time...

Clem of Creation graciously gave me permission to host all the Creation maps/plugins on the OoH site (just before the end of PlayMyth back in March 2007). Amazing, eh? I thought it was pretty neat, especially since he and I had our little differences once upon a time (seems like a lifetime ago, really). I've always respected the work he and Creation did, and didn't want to see it vanish. It's an impressive body of work and part of Myth History imo.

Part of the discussion I had with him was about mirroring the original Creation sites: Creation Games, The Seventh God, and his site, Clemapalooza.

It's taking me a while to get to this due to work/life demands, but after a thread on MariusNet came up regarding "Maps by Clem?" and the Myth III maps of his/Creation's which I include in the Myth III BIGZIP file on the OoH site (complete with original documentation/manuals), I decided I'd take a look at just how complicated it would be to get the sites mirrored relatively quickly.


Well, long story short (yes please!), I took a day off of work since it was minus-8 degrees F here this morning (good excuse, eh?) and whipped out a good chunk of the mirrors.

Basically, I did them in reverse: the Clemapalooza site is up with downloads, as well as the awesome The Seventh God (with the updated 1.4 version in both zip and 7-Zip formats). I'm working on the Creation Games site (there are some intertwined download links on it, so it will take me a little longer).


So here they are - remember that some links will be broken forever, but many will work (and the Creation Games ones will be improving over time when I get a chance to work on that site more thoroughly):
Let me know if you find hidden problems (other than broken links on the Creation Games site). The Creation Games site may go to entirely .php pages (from .html) to properly tie it in with the OoH download database. I'll announce it on this thread when/if it does.


I also plan to someday(tm) release a completed version of an uncompleted map Clem gave me permission to finish. Kewl, no? I'm thinking of waiting for Oak and Patch 1.7 to really make it something interesting. It's a beautiful map imo and high on my "Myth To Do" list.

Clem gave me permission to host it all - including downloads - on the OoH site, but expressly said that none of the material was to be hosted anywhere else. Thus none of it is on The Tain, nor should it be posted there (or anywhere else). So just grab the downloads from the OoH site and enjoy.

I'm very pleased he gave the go-ahead for me to host it all, because to me I believe they should be available for people to play -- they're all too dang good to have disappear.


So enjoy and Happy Holidays everyone! :D

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:23 am
by remedial
I haven't seen these in a while :)


A commendable effort and a great resource!-


Thanks Baak!

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:39 pm
by Baak
Ok - I finished going over the three Creation sites in more detail.

The CreationGames main page has updated download links on the left and greyed-out text for most non-links (in menus).

The Clemapalooza main page has now gone from index.html to index.php to allow for direct downloads of the plugins on the left (you may have to refresh the page once if you have gone to the index.html one).

Things should be pretty well updated now. :)

Let me know if you find anything odd/broken (after first refreshing any page to be sure you have the final version).


I'm still looking for the following mp3 file -- if anyone has it please let me know -- it's either of the two following names:

TSG_Level1audio.mp3
01_narration.mp3



Cheers!

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:51 pm
by Myrd
Can't you just extract it from TSG?

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:48 pm
by Baak
Myrd wrote:Can't you just extract it from TSG?
Heh - probably - but I've lost the proper incantation (read: I don't know how to). ;)

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:54 pm
by Myrd
Extract using SoundBlighter and then convert to mp3?

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:36 pm
by Baak
Myrd wrote:Extract using SoundBlighter and then convert to mp3?
Neat - I either missed this originally or completely forgot about it - I'll try it out and see what happens.

Thanks! :D

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:15 pm
by Baak
I tried SoundBlighter[PC] on WinXPPro and it crashes - hard. :?

Could someone please try SoundBlighter[Mac] on the tag file for me and then post the resulting .mp3 somewhere for me to download? :)


A zip of the original "701 narration" tag is located here

Thanks!

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:06 pm
by Horus
Clem gave you permission to do something? Lies! Clem never gives permission to anyone to do anything!

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:37 pm
by The Elfoid
Not that anyone'll ever play them, but I just thought that between these sites and TheTain, the Myth III maps Clem worked on with Flying Flip still aren't available. For completion's sake it'd be nice to get ahold of them. I might have them on my Mac on an old backup, not sure....

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:19 am
by Baak
Horus wrote:Clem gave you permission to do something? Lies! Clem never gives permission to anyone to do anything!

Here's an excerpt from the PM's I exchanged with Clem:

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From:	clem
To:	Baaklor
Posted:	Mar 06, 2007 - 07:36 PM
Subject:	Re: TSG distribution for private use	
  
Host whatever you want of mine and Creations with my full approval. That approval stays with you and your site and doesn't apply to any others or other sites. 

You're the one who asked. You can have it all. 

If I think about it tomorrow I'll make a list of all the Creation archive I have here. Probably a few minor things that people have forgotten or missed. 


Enjoy, 

Clem
He then zipped the entire archive of Creation and sent it to me with his blessing, including some unfinished map material he said I could do with as I chose. I took the Creation Games, The Seventh God, and Clemapalooza sites from this archive, cleaned them up, made the download links work, and posted them as mirrors -- just like I had discussed with him last Spring.


Elfoid wrote:Not that anyone'll ever play them, but I just thought that between these sites and TheTain, the Myth III maps Clem worked on with Flying Flip still aren't available. For completion's sake it'd be nice to get ahold of them. I might have them on my Mac on an old backup, not sure....
The Myth III Bigzip file at the top of the OoH Battle Plan contains all of the Myth III maps from Clem and Flying Flip.

I discussed this awhile back on MariusNet where a couple of people had maps I was missing and vice versa. I think that's the place to discuss Myth III, as there are a couple of active people there.

16 downloads of the Myth III Bigzip since then, so somebody is playing them.

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:50 am
by iron
Baak, is it just me or is ooh.com down?

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:04 am
by Ymir_MIA
Ditto

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:08 am
by Melekor
Baak wrote:I tried SoundBlighter[PC] on WinXPPro and it crashes - hard. :?

Could someone please try SoundBlighter[Mac] on the tag file for me and then post the resulting .mp3 somewhere for me to download? :)


A zip of the original "701 narration" tag is located here

Thanks!
Here you go:

http://www.projectmagma.net/~melekor/up ... ration.mp3

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:54 am
by vinylrake
iron wrote:Baak, is it just me or is ooh.com down?
I'm not Baak, and don't know the status of that site, but unless ooh.com is (one of) Baak's secret sites, I think you want http://orderofhpak.com -- which could also of course be down.