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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:40 pm
by Floyd is Pink
sorry.. had to start a new topic because it would let me reply...
so i read about Lurker and Voiceless, but i do myself believe that voiceless is shiver, and my thing about the faceless man, maybe didnt even exist, or is another name for damas, for having a torn off face.
but this lurker character, is it another name for the tormentor or the "red terror" character you have created? or did you just throw away a positively known fallen lord (...lurker) and replaced it with some other guys ('fallen lords') you guys made up, or is lurker just a theory as well?
sorry if that was confusing, im trying to talk wisely or someshit lol
oh and whats with the story of soulblighter tearing his face of and digging his heart out? i always thought it was like a severe accident, like darth vader in episode 3 and they had thralls and ghasts stich his face or something.
but anyways thanks... any pictures of this 'tormentor' and 'the red terror'?
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:30 pm
by Horus
Alrighty I guess this is where I step in.
The two unnamed Fallen Lords according to Bungie in their pre-release info were The Lurker and The Faceless Man.
First off Myth is based off a book series called The Black Company by Glen Cook. In said books there was a number of resurrected sorcerers bound to a great evil pair known as The Lady and The Dominator.
Some of the Taken were obviously used as inspiration for a number (if not all) of the Myth Fallen Lords.
1. Soulcatcher, a wicked evil member of the Taken. The name links to Soulblighter, also Soulcatcher was known for her use of Ravens as spies.
2. The Limper, a crippled yet hugely powerful member of the Taken, he was also quite insane and ended up as a dismembered talking head, which led to a Wickerman body. It is he who inspired The Watcher (crippled ie left arm and insane), The Head (a dismembered head) and the Watcher/Deceiver rivalry (The Limper fought with Soulcatcher allot).
Anyways one of the Taken was known as "The Faceless Man", this factor alone makes the Fallen Lord also known as The Faceless Man, a bad choice to use in TFV (it was a pre-release name and so can be changed anyway).
Thats why TFV doesn't use The Faceless Man and instead replaced him with The Tormentor.
The Lurker on the other hand (also known as Bonesplitter, which was based on another of the Taken known as Bonecrusher. Though there was also a Taken known as The Creeper, which is the same as lurking).
So we replaced The Lurker with a character known as The Red Terror.
I can give you more information privately along with the character concepts for our two Fallen Lords via Aim or via a PM at the TFV forums (I'd prefer not to do it over PM's here or public forums).
Ok now on to Soulblighter and his mauling of his face and removal of his heart. Well those acts were nothing to do with accident at all.
It was while campaigning in the East that Damas came upon a Temple where he discovered many a Dark Secret along with a ritual for immortallity. Basically he removed part of his face, made a large number of Human sacrifices and removed his heart. (read his menu bar flavour texts).
That issue alone contests with the Damas was a Heron Guard Captain issue from M3 (the Heron Guard are already immortal via their mandrake root ritual) just one point in which M3 makes a story contradiction.
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:34 pm
by Horus
Also if your curious, here's the Black Company List for the Taken
The Original Ten Who Were Taken
Soulcatcher
The Limper
The Howler
Stormbringer
Shapeshifter
The Hanged Man
Moonbiter (also known as Moondog)
The Faceless Man (also known as The Nameless Man)
Nightcrawler
Bonecrusher (also known as Bonegnasher)
The Lady also during the course of the Books made her own private Taken
Whisper (similar name to The Voiceless One (Shiver), no?)
Journey
Feather
Benefice
Blister
Creeper
Learned
Scorn
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:14 pm
by Floyd is Pink
good stuff thanks for the infos, horus. very interesting stuff
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:26 am
by William Wallet
Woah, hold up Horus! I thought you were Grand Author, now you're SUPREME Author??? Hahaha, I never thought of giving myself a hokey title when I made Freedom I guess I should have.
(Actually it reminds me of when I was 11 and me and Cid used to play silly spaceship games. I made myself Grand Admiral. I could've made Cid 'Grand Captain' but NOOO he ended up Grand Admiral's assitant. God I love being in charge).
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:32 am
by A-Red
William Wallet: Freedom Series Grand High Author-in-Chief
Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:01 pm
by Horus
The Fallen's Vengeance Grand Author and Project Leader.
Tomb Kings Supreme Author (my bro is Co-Author, but he hasn't done jack shit for the project. Me being Supreme Author was his idea since I did design the whole of TK 
)
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:22 am
by William Wallet
Hehhe, rock on man, I think we need more titles in this place.
Thanks for the title A-Red, I'll be sure to mention it at the site.
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:38 pm
by Brainbug
William Wallet wrote:I made myself Grand Admiral. I could've made Cid 'Grand Captain' but NOOO he ended up Grand Admiral's assitant. God I love being in charge).
something like this?
