New Builds of Tools

[haravikk]

Yeah but after 7 years? What did the PC users do if they wanted non-scrolling overheads?!

[CIK]

I'm afraid there is little interest in messing with the PC tools at this point. After being left in the dust bin for so long the Mac tools are now finally the better set of tools as they should be.

Oh BTW, Build 274 with fixes for the various limit problems is now up at http://myth.busybsoftware.com

This whole ball of wax will ship in the very near future so test now or you will find yourself hoping that Vista or 10.5 breaks 1.5.2 and we have to make a new set of builds.

[GodzFire]

Well if it's anything that Microsoft does well, it's breaking things, so there is hope.

[haravikk]

Hmm, but how much work would adding that one checkbox be to the Windows Fear? I realise from hard experience that GUI's can be a bitch, but the coding surely should be minimal, since the Mac version should tell us where in the file that flag goes, so you can just copy/paste and tweak as required?

I don't think either set of tools should be superior if we can avoid it, as there are mappers for both platforms, and PCs are still crippled with the inability to use Amber or other Mac only programs.

[Point]

all i can say is plz dont rush the release... give it a few weeks of testing. I have a triathlon this weekend so i wont get to online testing till next week... Ill do what i can this week as my work schedule allows.... great job gang and thanks for all your hard work.

[Soulytfs_1]

Yeah give PC tools some attention man! PLz dont make me go buy a mac just to make maps! :>
:> :> :> :>

[GodzFire]

Ahhhh yuck where did Gray's Fear icon go! The crappy one is back.

[haravikk]

*CRASH*

Trying to open "Thrall Head" in projectiles gave me this nasty log, every time I try to open it (or any other "Thrall X" projectile. Thrall Myth 1 projectiles seem to be fine for me:

Code: Select all

Date/Time:      2006-04-13 12:59:55.794 +0100
OS Version:     10.4.6 (Build 8I127)
Report Version: 4

Command: Fear 1.5.2
Path:    /Users/haravikk/Applications/Myth II ƒ/Fear 1.5.2
Parent:  WindowServer [54]

Version: 1.5.2 (1.5.2,©2006 Paul Bucher, ©1999 Bungie Software Products Corporation)

PID:    547
Thread: 0

Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes:      KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x4955f324

Thread 0 Crashed:
0   Fear 1.5.2        	0x004b8e10 strcpy + 20
1   Fear 1.5.2        	0x004598c8 CreateSequencePopupape_internal + 3300 (icplusplus.c:28)
3   com.unsanity.ape  	0xc0001910 __ape_agent + 64 (icplusplus.c:28)
4   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9002ba68 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 0 crashed with PPC Thread State 64:
  srr0: 0x00000000004b8e10 srr1: 0x100000000200f030                        vrsave: 0x0000000000000000
    cr: 0x84802282          xer: 0x0000000020000000   lr: 0x00000000004598c8  ctr: 0x00000000932269a0
    r0: 0x000000000003e280   r1: 0x00000000bfffef80   r2: 0x00000000000d1000   r3: 0x00000000bfffefc0
    r4: 0x000000004955f324   r5: 0x00000000bfffee70   r6: 0x0000000000000000   r7: 0x0000000000000000
    r8: 0x00000000bfffed30   r9: 0x00000000400005e3  r10: 0x0000000000000004  r11: 0x0000000044802282
   r12: 0x00000000bfffed30  r13: 0x0000000000000000  r14: 0x0000000000000000  r15: 0x0000000000000000
   r16: 0x0000000000000000  r17: 0x0000000000000000  r18: 0x0000000000000000  r19: 0x0000000000000000
   r20: 0x00000000bffffce4  r21: 0x00000000ffffffff  r22: 0x00000000bffffaa0  r23: 0x0000000000000000
   r24: 0x000000000030e010  r25: 0x000000000000746d  r26: 0x00000000bfffefc0  r27: 0x00000000bfffefc0
   r28: 0x000000000039e470  r29: 0x00000000007a22e0  r30: 0x00000000bfffefbf  r31: 0x000000004955f324

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USB Device: Apple Cinema Display, , Up to 1.5 Mb/sec, 500 mA
USB Device: USB 2 Flash Media Device, BELKIN, Up to 480 Mb/sec, 500 mA
FireWire Device: LaCie Hard Drive Firewire, LaCie, Up to 400 Mb/sec
FireWire Device: unknown_device, unknown_value, Up to 400 Mb/sec

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Also, various comments on the Fear build (I haven't had much chance it use it until I started playing with it recently):

Green is not a good colour for new things, on a white background it's hard to read! A darker green would maybe work
Typing in the name of something while in a list (e.g after you open Projectiles) doesn't scroll to that item, makes it slow to find things as I can't just type in "gh" to get to ghôl.
Also, where are the additional options that 1.4 opened up? Doesn't the PC version have all these as checkboxes/text-fields to make it easier to enter them in? Atm it looks like we still need to use terrain parameters?
You mispelled "Propelled" in the monster tag

Otherwise it's awesome, it's just as Fear used to be on OS 9, but for OS X! It's also MUCH faster, it loads and opens things instantaneously on my G5, while in Classic it would take a while to open.