Hex editor

Myrkridia Slayer · Post by **Myrkridia Slayer** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:53 pm

Does anybody know where i can download a good hex editor for making myth 2 maps?

DarthRevan555 · Post by **DarthRevan555** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:06 pm

woa woah woah!!!

hex editor to make myth 2 maps?
are you nuts O_O

just use fear and loathing to make some basic ones

Eddaweaver · Post by **Eddaweaver** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:39 am

DarthRevan555 wrote:woa woah woah!!!

hex editor to make myth 2 maps?
are you nuts O_O

just use fear and loathing to make some basic ones

If he is going to do anything other than the most basic mapmaking, he will need a hex editor.

Myrkridia Slayer wrote:Does anybody know where i can download a good hex editor for making myth 2 maps?

View this thread & follow the links:
http://www.projectmagma.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3779

vinylrake · Post by **vinylrake** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:46 am

Eddaweaver wrote:If he is going to do anything other than the most basic mapmaking, he will need a hex editor.

How so? e.g. What do you NEED a hex editor for ?

Pyro · Post by **Pyro** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:35 pm

I too, wish to know what a map maker needs a hex editor for?

Myrkridia Slayer · Post by **Myrkridia Slayer** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:08 pm

i was told that i would need one to make amap, but now i see thats not true.

Pyro · Post by **Pyro** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:15 pm

I do know people would use one for TFL mapmaking, but that is because TFL didn't have as many useful tools as Myth II. I'm sure you could find a way to use a hex editor for Myth II mapmaking, but I can't of a reason for such a thing with the tools and methods we already know of.

Zeph · Post by **Zeph** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:44 pm

The only reason you need a hex editor to make maps is if you make a map based on a tagset and you don't want to extract the tagset to your local folder. In that case, you duplicate the plugin and change the first 4 hexadecimal codes to 00 02 00 05 and the plugin will load as if it was a tag file.

You will have to remove that modified plugin if you wish to play online or else games will be red!

Post by **haravikk** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:00 am

Zeph's correct; there are no features that are unavailable in Loathing or Fear for meshes. There are some tags that Fear doesn't support like collection-editing and model-making but Amber/Apathy/Vegas cover those (if you can run them).

gugusm · Post by **gugusm** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:17 am

I'm not a mapmaking veteran, but I've made 2 maps so far and some more unreleased and I've never used hex editor

Graydon · Post by **Graydon** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:10 pm

I can actually give one good example of where I use a hex editor (HexEdit) in mapmaking.

Say I find a model in a plugin or a myth 2 map that I want to use on my mesh.. but then say I want to use that same model, but with different textures.

There's tools to export geom files to meshworks, however although the textures are in place, they're not pinmapped, and you have to take time to retexture the model.

On top of that, you have to create new textures to apply to your edited model.

One might suggest to just duplicate the tags, and edit their headers to create unique tags, and amber the new textures in... However geometry and model files are quite picky and reference the original tag ids. There is no available 3rd party app to edit that information. Malice displays it, and tells you when its wrong, but it cant edit it for you. That's where the hex editor comes in. You have to make each model point to a geometry to point to a collection reference, to be linked to a collection in Fear.

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