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A forum for discussing map making ideas and problems for the Myth series.
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Post by vinylrake »

a search on these forums will get you links to the most useful DETAILED walkthroughs. search for 'healwithsteel' (the author)

if you don't want to do that go to http://mything.org, click on the 'graveyard((articles)' link and then when you get there click on the 'Myth II mapmaking" link in the sidebar.

If you are brand new to mapmnaking, I would suggest going step by step (not skipping ANYTHING) through HealWithSteel's Mapmaking for Newbies guide. It is VERY detailed and has pictures and is quite well written and is very thorough. ONce you've gone through that you will have a basic playable map. Then when you want to REALLY try creating something from scratch, go through Clem's colormapping walkthrough - it's a very thorough guide to creating a purty colormap.
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Post by gugusm »

Also when it comes to scripting, I think that Ares' guide is very nice (you can find it on vinylrake's graveyard too), though not thorough :wink: For details and some advanced stuff I'd recommend to just ask for them here on Project Magma forums.
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I'm looking to get a program like windows paint except better. some people mentioned that they use a free version of "fireworks". anyone know where i can get this?

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Post by vinylrake »

There is a free cross-platform photoshop-like application called 'Gimp' that should do everything you need to do graphically to make maps.

If you google 'Gimp' I am sure you will find download links.
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Post by Graydon »

I have no idea how much a copy of PS 7 on ebay might cost... but if it's reasonable that might be a worthwhile investment.

And then there _is_ always the world of torrents... :roll:
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Graydon wrote:I have no idea how much a copy of PS 7 on ebay might cost... but if it's reasonable that might be a worthwhile investment.

And then there _is_ always the world of torrents... :roll:
Photoshop is _never_ reasonable, unless you are a professional digital image photographer/manipulator.

I would give Gimp a shot - it's free, cross platform does layers and all that, and there's lots and lots of features. Plus it's opensource you would be improving your geek cred if you make maps with Gimp.
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vinylrake wrote:
Graydon wrote:I have no idea how much a copy of PS 7 on ebay might cost... but if it's reasonable that might be a worthwhile investment.

And then there _is_ always the world of torrents... :roll:
Photoshop is _never_ reasonable, unless you are a professional digital image photographer/manipulator.

I would give Gimp a shot - it's free, cross platform does layers and all that, and there's lots and lots of features. Plus it's opensource you would be improving your geek cred if you make maps with Gimp.
PS7 for Mac $126 on ebay.
for Windows about the same or cheaper [more time left on bidding]

Not saying the person should buy it, but $126 is "affordable" and PS7 is more than capable.
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sillek wrote: PS7 for Mac $126 on ebay.
for Windows about the same or cheaper [more time left on bidding]

Not saying the person should buy it, but $126 is "affordable" and PS7 is more than capable.
Depends on one's budget. If I had to pay for my 2D graphics program to create maps for Myth, and were choosing between PhotoShop 7 and GIMP, GIMP would be my choice.


ps. Agree with Sill - Photoshop 7 is way more than adequate for myth mapmaking - I even created a couple of maps on PhotoShop 5.5 and didn't want for features, but on the Mac side I think you would run into compatibility issues since 5.5 ws I _think_ was pre OS X, while 7.0 runs in either OS.
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Post by Graydon »

I suppose if you're learning how to use an app to make myth maps for the first time, it might not be a bad idea to check out the free option.

I got exposed to photoshop at school, and started working on basic myth maps there on free time. After learning many of the functions, and knowing how to use the program, I didn't see the point in learning another tool. If you are into photography at all (as I am), learning some of the ins and outs of photoshop can benefit you in more ways than just beautiful colourmapping. :)
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