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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:12 pm
by Brett Frazier
I have 4 archers that I have nurtured all the way thru. One has 100 kills and another has 96. Yet under twice born, they show up under one of the non-controllable groups. any way to keep them w/ Alric? I want to keep them to the end. At least my 3 vetern dwarves are still w/ me.
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:32 am
by A-Red
Wait just a minute here! This post prompted me to look in Loathing at the Twice Born mesh, and it seems that you have taken it upon yourselves to make Twice Reborn the permanent replacement for the level. It must have been done in 1.5.1, or else I just missed it before because I haven't played the Myth II solo campaign since I downloaded 1.5.
I am not happy about this change. if I wanted to play Twice Reborn I would download the plugin, stick it in my plugins folder, and play it. Do what you want as far as bug fixes, gameplay tweaks, and mapmaking additions, but please do not rescript my game. I bought Myth II, and I expect to play Myth II unless I turn on a plugin. I liked it just fine the way Bungie made it, and I would prefer for it to stay that way.
A-Red
P.S. This also answers the veteran question. In the original, the only vets were in the controllable group.
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:14 am
by William Wallet
Well technically speaking you could make a plugin of the original and play that.
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:50 am
by Lothar
I'll do it!
::Makes plugin of original Twice Born::
Ok... Who wants to download it? :p
D'oh 
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:52 am
by Myrd
No changes to the Twice Born level have been done in 1.5.1, 1.5.1 does not change any of the tags, and will not do so. The previous changes to the tags are to remain that way, at least in 1.5.1.
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:40 pm
by A-Red
You shouldn't have to make a plugin of the original because it was part of the game. But apparently I'm a little late. When exactly was this change made?
A-Red
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:20 pm
by TarousZars
1.5
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:23 pm
by Sav
No, TZ, Twice Born was changed in 1.4, about a year and a half ago.
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:36 pm
by Orlando the Axe
And this was done because of notes saying that twice reborn is what Bungie had tried to do in the original version of the map but failed if I can remember correctly.
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 7:31 pm
by A-Red
oh. Fair enough. I'm still going to miss my 23-level veteran arcs when they die though.
A-Red
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:41 pm
by Sav
When the change was made, all the vets should have been kept with the central force.
There are enough scripting errors in various levels that a plug to fix all the scripting issues in all the standard maps would make some sense.
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:29 pm
by Orlando the Axe
makes sense to me, but im not on the "development team". I'll leave it for someone else.
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:34 pm
by iron
to me that'd make a lot of sense, along with including the 2 best PRASP maps as standard.
however, this has been discussed previously, and the vote was pretty much that no Patch 1.5.1 would be made.
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:45 pm
by TopGunZ
gonna miss the veteran symbols that overcrowd the flavor txt bar?
